China’s Deepseek took the world by surprise in January, shocking the AI industry and raising questions about the continued success of the United States’ key AI companies, including ChatGPT’s OpenAI. China’s continued expansion of AI models, such as Baidu’s Ernie, has further raised questions about the success of export controls. On this episode of Zoom In Zoom Out, Chris Gorin talks with the Center for Strategic and International Studies’ Matt Pearl about how the escalating China-U.S. AI race is shaping the tech world.